PoT 2014: Visit at dial-maker Fehr & Cie S.A. (official report (ii))

Nov 24, 2014,13:51 PM
 

After the "Mécanique Générale" department, we would like to invite you to follow us through two breathtaking departments: "Guillochage" and "Polissage". Here is probably what watch enthusiasts cherish most – hand-made dials created using traditional techniques.



I must confess that, when I've noticed the "Guillochage" plate, I've asked myself: "Hey, Elio, are you really about to see with your eyes a guillochage machine, aka rose engine?" Well, not only we've seen them…












… but we have seen them in action!!!














Please note that, even if the machines are very old, they are equipped with modern viewing instruments.





After a big congratulation to the highly skillful (and very kind) operators, almost inevitably we vividly imagined how exciting must be to have a timepiece with some wonderful guilloché work... Congratulations to the happy owners that will enjoy these very nicely done works.






The next step was the "Polissage" department. This not only removes production debris of former steps, but also introduces additional finishing touches like brushed rings etc. 










Patterns were available to show the various production stages. The steps are 'brut' (=raw), 'adouçi' (=softened) and 'poli' (=polished). Fittingly demonstrated with a dial to celebrate...



Want to see more? Sure, here you are:



Basically, an operator mounts the raw dials on a soft but precise plate, and presses it with even handling on the rotating polishing surface:









One of the materials that needs a lot of attention is mother-of-pearl. Fehr S.A: has a quite vast production of m-o-p dials and can offer them in every colour you like, from the lightest to the darkest. There are, we were explained, several ways to obtain a coloured m-o-p dial. For the expensive ones, coloured raw material is selected, adding substantially to the cost of such a dial. More affordable models achieve the effect by using a very thin white m-o-p material shimmed with a coloured plates underneath.



Polishing m-o-p dials requires exclusively human action, since a machine can't obtain as much beauty. The steps are quite distinct:



Here you can see an operator in action and her results.









Just imagine polishing such thin material:





Fehr S.A. is also one of the few specialists who are able to work on curved m-o-p dials:








The company also has its own gem-setting atelier. The technicians were already out for lunch, thus it was empty. We could however see the level of in-house work exemplified with a rather complicated dial with a brilliant-adorned ring surrounded by Aventurine:



Starting with a solid machined baseplate, first the inner section is milled out just to allow the fixation of the brilliants.




Subsequently, the remaining material is removed as well…



… until the dial is ready for the gem-setters, again, to mount the semi-precious stone:




As we've previously said, the pieces produced in the General Machinery department need some other mechanical works. These are done in a dedicated department, the "Ébauches" one (not to be confused with movement ébauches!)





The removal of material from an already highly worked (or even ‘preciourised’) dial is a delicate task and is entrusted to well-trained and experienced craftsmen and their dedicated machines. Depending on the specific dial, the cuts are either done in one step using a stamp...







... or with a simple drilling machine for more complicated tasks, e.g. if inner parts or subdials need to be removed or thinned...












… or bringing into shape dial elements. Could you see what has been done on this rather famous piece?




All this with a quite pleasing view:



No wonder the workers are in a good mood:



Now, our dials are finished as far as mechanical treatments are concerned.



Ready? Well, almost, one decisive part is still missing: The small and tiny feet which allow precise instalment on a watch movement. These machines are meant to apply them on the dials.





Owing to the diminutive size of the feet, manual work is out of question. A dedicated machine using vacuum individually grabs a foot and applies to its position on the dial’s back side:








This kind lady was in charge of this work, that day.



This is the last step:




NOW with the feet applied we a finally able to move on (pun intended!).



But that’s all for today. In our second and last instalment on the creation of dials we will present how dials obtain their final face: colouration, printing, setting of indices etc.

Stay tuned!
Elio & Magnus

 
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PoT 2014: Visit at dial-maker Fehr & Cie S.A. (official report (i))

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 25th, 2014-07:32
On the 8th and 9th of October a small group of lucky fellows had the opportunity to participate in a PoT (PuristS on Tour). The first day we was hosted by Hublot , who offered us an insightful factory tour, an interesting wine tasting experience and an ex...  

PoT 2014: Visit at dial-maker Fehr & Cie S.A. (official report (ii))

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 24th, 2014-13:51
After the "Mécanique Générale" department, we would like to invite you to follow us through two breathtaking departments: "Guillochage" and "Polissage" . Here is probably what watch enthusiasts cherish most – hand-made dials created using traditional tech...  

A beautiful dial, the skills needed and the difficulties to produce them ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : November 25th, 2014-08:19
are quite often underestimated. Too often we talk about complications , but talk about complicated movements only. To visit a dial factory/workshop is something very special and quite often it feels like to be in the kitchen of a witch, because of the "ma... 

Yes, Oliver, these are aspects we all too often take for granted!

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 26th, 2014-05:35
Dials, like case or hands, are often judged only after their aesthetic qualities, everything beyond that is not appreciated. From our own discussions, Oliver, we two learned a lot about the subtle details which make a dial (case, hand, strap...) outstandi... 

The "magic" of a dial factory

 
 By: heartbreaker : November 27th, 2014-05:14
Thank you Oliver for your words, that add a lot to the discussion. Room after room and department after department, I've had exactly the same feeling you’ve described. Yes, almost all of the manual work is a bit repetitive, but the output is new every day... 

Thanks for the great report Magnus & Elio!

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : November 25th, 2014-08:41
Did they let you keep any unfinished stamped dials as souvenirs to keep? :) Cheers, Anthony

Well, Anthony, you have to know that…

 
 By: heartbreaker : November 27th, 2014-05:15
…when Monsieur Luthi have heard that in the visiting group there was an Italian, he made himself a bit rigid and turned his eyes around thinking <<Hey man, you’re in trouble, take a closer look at those looong Italian hands>>. ;-) But my hands... 

Fantastic report

 
 By: Mark in Paris : November 25th, 2014-08:52
As many of us are interested in knowing how mechanics work, the making of dials is also something we love learning about. Thanks a lot for the work and the time needed to make those reports, both of you guys. Cheers, Mark

I think dial and case-works are often under appreciated. We so much love...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 26th, 2014-04:13
complications and movement finishing, but so often forget about what we (and others) see mostly. Thanks, Magnus

indeed, I was even told more than once that …

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 26th, 2014-09:04
the case and bracelet of a standard AP RO is more expensive than the movement And we're talking about an AP movement, a well finished AP movement, not a 100 USD slightly modified ETA The RO is known for it's special case and ditto bracelet … I wouldn't be... 

"RO is known for it's special case and ditto bracelet"

 
 By: small-luxury-world : November 26th, 2014-09:31
I agree and you didn´t even mention the Nautilus case, which is even more pricey to do.

Maybe, we should hope for a better info from the Maisons?

 
 By: heartbreaker : November 27th, 2014-05:16
Thank you Mark for your kind words. As for learning about dial-making, I think that the Maisons could adopt a better communication. Better in sense of a greater transparency on the dial characteristics, being it a plain one or an elaborate one, telling us... 

Elio

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 27th, 2014-09:54
I think the manufactures prefer to keep this info for themselves About 10 years ago the 'in-house movement' hype started At the end several brands were almost forced to start making an own in-house movement because a big group of clients asked for 'in-hou... 

Métalem ?

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 25th, 2014-09:40
About 2 yours ago I also visited Zenith and a dial maker but it was called Métalem I believe. Is this the same company ? Mr Marietta also joined us … I thought Métalem belonged to his family ( but I could be wrong) Thanks for the report, brings back great... 

No, Métalem is a separate company (located in Le Locle), but it also....

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 26th, 2014-04:11
produces dials for Zenith. As for Mr Marietta, mmmh, perhaps his father works for Métalem? I'll try to find out! Best, Magnus