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Elio
Nov 27, 2014,09:54 AM
I think the manufactures prefer to keep this info for themselves
About 10 years ago the 'in-house movement' hype started
At the end several brands were almost forced to start making an own in-house movement because a big group of clients asked for 'in-house'
For several brands that was a big jump because making an in-house movement is very expensive ( probably the biggest reason why for example Péquignet went bankrupt at that time) They also went in-house but did not have enough money and took a too big risk.
Now, most manufactures do not make their own dials ( as you have seen)
Imagine customers would ask the same thing … ' we want in-house made dials''
It's just to expensive for most brands to start such a production
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PoT 2014: Visit at dial-maker Fehr & Cie S.A. (official report (i))
By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 25th, 2014-07:32
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PoT 2014: Visit at dial-maker Fehr & Cie S.A. (official report (ii))
By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 24th, 2014-13:51
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A beautiful dial, the skills needed and the difficulties to produce them ...
By: small-luxury-world : November 25th, 2014-08:19
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By: Ornatus-Mundi : November 26th, 2014-05:35
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By: heartbreaker : November 27th, 2014-05:14
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Well, Anthony, you have to know that…
By: heartbreaker : November 27th, 2014-05:15
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Fantastic report
By: Mark in Paris : November 25th, 2014-08:52
As many of us are interested in knowing how mechanics work, the making of dials is also something we love learning about. Thanks a lot for the work and the time needed to make those reports, both of you guys. Cheers, Mark
indeed, I was even told more than once that …
By: Bruno.M1 : November 26th, 2014-09:04
the case and bracelet of a standard AP RO is more expensive than the movement And we're talking about an AP movement, a well finished AP movement, not a 100 USD slightly modified ETA The RO is known for it's special case and ditto bracelet … I wouldn't be...
Maybe, we should hope for a better info from the Maisons?
By: heartbreaker : November 27th, 2014-05:16
Thank you Mark for your kind words. As for learning about dial-making, I think that the Maisons could adopt a better communication. Better in sense of a greater transparency on the dial characteristics, being it a plain one or an elaborate one, telling us...
Elio
By: Bruno.M1 : November 27th, 2014-09:54
I think the manufactures prefer to keep this info for themselves About 10 years ago the 'in-house movement' hype started At the end several brands were almost forced to start making an own in-house movement because a big group of clients asked for 'in-hou...
Métalem ?
By: Bruno.M1 : November 25th, 2014-09:40
About 2 yours ago I also visited Zenith and a dial maker but it was called Métalem I believe. Is this the same company ? Mr Marietta also joined us … I thought Métalem belonged to his family ( but I could be wrong) Thanks for the report, brings back great...