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Zenith's El Primero in other brands' watches - what's your take?

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 12th, 2015-08:13
The El Primero automatic chronograph movement has made history as the first integrated automatic chronograph . This alone is a commendable achievement. But there is more to it: after the dawn of the quart crisis it was the first choice of many respected b...  

Thank you Marcus, can elaborate on Ebel

 
 By: ztirual : January 12th, 2015-09:13
being the first to have an EP movement cased in one of their watches, ie. before the launch of the EP by Zenith on 10th January 1969? Always keen to learn more, advance thank you. Z'

"After the dawn of the quarts crisis it was the first choice of many respected brands..."

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 12th, 2015-11:35
that was the context. Of course Zenith used it before after 1969, but they were not the first after the infamous 1970/1980 years... Magnus

You can add the Concord Impresario to this list...

 
 By: jmpTT : January 12th, 2015-10:10
Having examined the Concord Impresario in-person, I was very impressed with the coin-edge case finishing. It's a good looking watch with pleasant heft and a reasonable diameter. An El Primero watch with character, for sure. Due to Concord's re-branding ef...  

How could I miss this?

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 12th, 2015-23:48
This indeed is a fascinating piece, albeit its style is a bit polarising to me. Long gone times, indeed! Best, Magnus

My take

 
 By: lhk1 : January 13th, 2015-03:19
El Primero movement is one of my favourite movements. I like any wataches that housed with such movement (with or without modification). You see the biasness? To me, it enhances the quality and value of the watch. Thank you, Magnus. Regards Ling

Ling, that's interesting! Please tell us more...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 13th, 2015-05:26
about why you love this movement so much. Did your appreciation change over time, with so many fine automatic chronographs meanwhile on the market? For myself, I like the classical construction, which is still quite resemblant to the old manual wind movem... 

Rolex Ratchet

 
 By: aaronm : January 13th, 2015-18:40
I just noticed this for the first time, did rolex also replace the ratchet wheel with one of their red ones, but upside-down? a

What about Hublot and Bulgari

 
 By: stere : January 16th, 2015-02:31
Hi all, Hublot uses it at the Spirit of Big Bang: ...and Bulgari for Octo Chrono: stere ...  

Excellent examples... both square & very contemporary...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 17th, 2015-04:43
thanks for posting them. Am I right that in the Hublot I could see how the pushers act? Best, Magnus

El Primero in other brands

 
 By: LouS : January 17th, 2015-11:31
This is the list of other brands that have cased the El Primero that we came up with in another forum. Boucheron - in white gold, with cal 400Z branded "Boucheron El Primero" on rotor Concord - ( ? - 2002) Impresario - cal. 411 (without moonphase) Dior Ch... 

Now THAT would be a great collection!

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 17th, 2015-13:42
Great work, Lou, for putting this together! But one comment though: Wasn't Movado part of the development consortium? Thus, I would consider it 'in-house', perhaps? Best, Magnus

I don't think Movado contributed anything

 
 By: LouS : January 17th, 2015-14:55
El Primero had been in development for years - Zenith's original plan had been to prepare it for its centennial in 1965. The expertise for the movement came largely - probably entirely - from Martel, Universal Geneve's long time chronograph movement suppl...